Great Quotes
This will be a slowly growing page (got a good one? feel free to suggest it: Don’t forget to provide a link!!).

Vaclav Smil

You see, we are smart, so we see these small things coming and we see the trend is going. But we are unwilling to act unless it’s a bit too late or unless it is inevitable to act, really… Not that we are bad at recognising the trends. We see them, you would have to be stupid not to see many of these trends, right? But we are unwilling to act because it’s easier not to act than to act. Because to act, it is always some sort of sacrifice. And we are not willing to take voluntary sacrifice.

Michael Mann:

Burying our heads in the sand would leave future generations at the mercy of potentially dangerous changes in our climate. The only sure way to mitigate these threats is to reduce global greenhouse gas emissions dramatically over the next few decades. But even if we don’t reduce emissions, the reality of adapting to climate change will require responses from government at all levels.

And also from the same article (to counter the denial stupidity that assumes the whole “hoax” is based on Mann’s hockey stick)

Even without my work, or that of the entire sub-field of studying past climates, scientists are in broad agreement on the reality of these changes and their near-certain link to human activity.

and from another article

We have to make it clear that the ice sheets are not Republicans or Democrats – they don’t have a political agenda as they disappear

Pascal Diethelm and Martin McKee:

Denialists are usually not deterred by the extreme isolation of their theories, but rather see it as the indication of their intellectual courage against the dominant orthodoxy and the accompanying political correctness, often comparing themselves to Galileo.

And also from the same article

Whatever the motivation, it is important to recognize denialism when confronted with it. The normal academic response to an opposing argument is to engage with it, testing the strengths and weaknesses of the differing views, in the expectations that the truth will emerge through a process of debate. However, this requires that both parties obey certain ground rules, such as a willingness to look at the evidence as a whole, to reject deliberate distortions and to accept principles of logic. A meaningful discourse is impossible when one party rejects these rules.

Roy Spencer:

For those who believe Spencer’s interpretation of data is more thorough than the vast majority of climate scientists (>95%)  who concur that our actions are very likely causing an impact on climate

I finally became convinced that the theory of creation actually had a much better scientific basis than the theory of evolution, for the creation model was actually better able to explain the physical and biological complexity in the world… Science has startled us with its many discoveries and advances, but it has hit a brick wall in its attempt to rid itself of the need for a creator and designer.

Richard Dawkins:

I could quote almost everything he has ever written, but that’s simply plagiarism.

[Religion and science] …are deeply opposed. Science is a discipline of investigation and constructive doubt, questing with logic, evidence and reason to draw conclusions. Faith, by stark contrast, demands a positive suspension of critical faculties.‘Sciences proceeds by setting up hypotheses, ideas or models and then attempts to disprove them. So a scientist is constantly asking questions, being sceptical. Religion is about turning untested belief into unshakeable truth through the power of institutions and the passage of time.”

The God Delusion, 2006.

And

Reason has built the modern world. It is a precious, but also a fragile thing which can be corroded by apparently harmless irrationality. We must favour verifiable evidence over private feeling. Otherwise we leave ourselves vulnerable to those who would obscure the truth.

Slaves to Superstition, 2007.

Nicholas Stern:

The basic scientific conclusions on climate change are very robust and for very good reason. The greenhouse effect is simple and sound science: greenhouse gases trap heat, and humans are emitting ever more greenhouse gases. There will be oscillations, there will be uncertainties. But the logic of the greenhouse effect is rock solid and the long-term trends associated with the effects of human emissions are clear in the data. The arguments from those who would deny the science look more and more like those who denied the association between HIV and Aids or smoking and cancer. Science and policymaking thrive on challenge and questioning; they are vital to the health of enquiry and democracy. But at some point it makes sense to move on to the challenges of policymaking and accept that the evidence is overwhelming. We are way past that point.

Carlo Rovelli:

Ken put me on to this quote and I had to put is down in it’s complete form.

The Uselessness of Certainty

There is a widely used notion that does plenty of damage: the notion of “scientifically proven”. Nearly an oxymoron. The very foundation of science is to keep the door open to doubt. Precisely because we keep questioning everything, especially our own premises, we are always ready to improve our knowledge. Therefore a good scientist is never ‘certain’. Lack of certainty is precisely what makes conclusions more reliable than the conclusions of those who are certain: because the good scientist will be ready to shift to a different point of view if better elements of evidence, or novel arguments emerge. Therefore certainty is not only something of no use, but is in fact damaging, if we value reliability.

Failure to appreciate the value of the lack of certainty is at the origin of much silliness in our society. Are we sure that the Earth is going to keep heating up, if we do not do anything? Are we sure of the details of the current theory of evolution? Are we sure that modern medicine is always a better strategy than traditional ones? No we are not, in none of these cases. But if from this lack of certainty we jump to the conviction that we better not care about global heating, that there is no evolution and the world was created six thousand years ago, or that traditional medicine must be more effective that the modern medicine, well, we are simply stupid. Still, many people do these silly inferences. Because the lack of certainty is perceived as a sign of weakness, instead of being what it is: the first source of our knowledge.

Every knowledge, even the most solid, carries a margin of uncertainty. (I am very sure about my own name … but what if I just hit my head and got momentarily confused?) Knowledge itself is probabilistic in nature, a notion emphasized by some currents of philosophical pragmatism. Better understanding of the meaning of probability, and especially realizing that we never have, nor need, ‘scientifically proven’ facts, but only a sufficiently high degree of probability, in order to take decisions and act, would improve everybody’ conceptual toolkit.

Camille Parmesan et al.:

By over-emphasizing the need for rigorous assessment of the specific role of greenhouse-gas forcing in driving observed biological changes, the IPCC effectively yields to the contrarians’ inexhaustible demands for more ‘proof’, rather than advancing the most pressing and practical scientific questions. This focus diverts energies and research funds away from developing crucial adaptation and conservation measures. To improve estimates of future biological impacts we need research focused on how other human stressors exacerbate impacts of climate change. Most importantly from a conservation standpoint, these other stressors are more easily managed on local scales than climate itself, and thus, paradoxically, are crucial to constructing adaptation programmes to cope with anthropogenic climate change.

Paul Krugman:

For years now, large numbers of prominent scientists have been warning, with increasing urgency, that if we continue with business as usual, the results will be very bad, perhaps catastrophic. They could be wrong. But if you’re going to assert that they are in fact wrong, you have a moral responsibility to approach the topic with high seriousness and an open mind. After all, if the scientists are right, you’ll be doing a great deal of damage.

But what we had, instead of high seriousness, was a farce: a supposedly crucial hearing stacked with people who had no business being there and instant ostracism for a climate skeptic who was actually willing to change his mind in the face of evidence.

Tim Minchin:

As there seems to be no end of climate change deniers who wish to write climate science as a form of faith…

Science adjust it’s views based on what’s observed.
Faith is the denial of observation, so that belief can be preserved.

David Rothkopf

Arguably comparable to the “climate war” we’re witnessing today

When the cold war ended, we thought we were going to have a clash of civilizations. It turns out we’re having a clash of generations.

Dr Thomas Stemler:

Listen to his RTR podcast on scientific consensus here

Discussion

4 Responses to “Great Quotes”

  1. A few quotes here you may interested in.

    “The most important truths are likely to be those which society at that time least wants to hear” W. H. Auden

    “I’m all in favour of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let’s start with typewriters” Frank Lloyd Wright

    Growth, just for the sake of growth, is the ideology of the cancer cell. *Edward Abbey, US Environmentalist

    The pursuit of balance can create imbalance because sometimes something is true. Okrent’s law:

    The scientist is… disposed to regard his opponent as an honorable enemy. This attitude is necessary for his effectiveness as a scientist, but tends to make him the dupe of unprincipled people in war and politics.

    -Norbert Wiener

    “Reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled.”
    -Richard Feynman

    [B]elieving that the rustle in the grass is a dangerous predator when it is only the wind does not cost much, but believing that a dangerous predator is the wind may cost an animal its life.
    -Michael Shermer, h/t Hank Roberts

    More interesting is what is not contained in the [Climategate] emails. There is no evidence of any worldwide conspiracy, no mention of George Soros nefariously funding climate research, no grand plan to ‘get rid of the MWP’, no admission that global warming is a hoax, no evidence of the falsifying of data, and no ‘marching orders’ from our socialist/communist/vegetarian overlords.
    -RealClimate, h/t clearscience

    Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.
    -Philip K. Dick, h/t Dale

    Yes, climate science is uncertain. However, it’s certain enough to warrant action. You don’t need to have the seventh decimal place filled in to see that the number isn’t looking good.
    -Brian D.

    If humans weren’t here and we didn’t care about anything that lives here, if this were a video game, I’d push the button and see what happens, because it’d be really exciting; but it’s not a video game.
    -Richard Alley, h/t Anna Haynes

    [F]or someone who has yet to enter the paleoclimatology field, I can imagine that the harassment by inactivists will be a significant factor. I expect that budding researchers will ask themselves, ‘Am I really so passionate, so interested, so burning with curiosity about paleoclimatology, that I’m willing to put up with metric truckloads of nonsense from inactivists, in addition to doing the extremely tedious work of begging for data, tidying up data, analyzing data, writing papers, and editing papers?’
    And I think it’s a reasonable question.
    -Frank

    Science is so powerful that it drags us kicking and screaming towards the truth despite our best efforts to avoid it.
    -Voltaire

    If you want to know the scientific consensus on global warming, read the reports by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. But if you want to know what the consensus will be ten years from now, read Jim Hansen’s work.
    -Chuck Kutscher

    Posted by Stephen Latham | 11/03/2011, 3:07 am
    • That’s a great list Stephen. I really like Norbert Wiener’s quote and will use it to justify moving the trolls to under the alfoil hat from now on – it’s the trap I often discuss; similar to the article by Pascal Diethelm and Martin McKee. Scientific debate only works when both parties adhere to the same rigorous rules. This is not how the public / political debate over AGW is done and why science fails to overcome misinformation of this nature.

      Frank’s quote is a great one and leads us to the disturbing prospect of heading backwards into an age of increasing ignorance. We simply cannot let stagnant ideologies suppress the pursuit of knowledge and innovative progression.

      Thanks Stephen!

      Posted by MothIncarnate | 11/03/2011, 8:10 am
  2. Fascinating website overall, and great quotes above, definitely, both in the original list and Stephen’s additions. Zinger quotes like these are great tools for making messages stick in listeners ears. They resonate a long time. Quote hounds can find additional climate quotes, metaphors, soundbites etc. at http://www.ClimateBites.org.

    Small suggestion: It would be helpful if contributor’s would post links to their source, so those who want to use the quotes can quickly click back to the original source — for confirmation, attribution etc. Stephen’s excellent collection above is I think is mostly derived from ClimateSight.org, a site started by a budding Candadian climatologist named Kate when she was only 16 years old! She deserved a shout out for compiling it.

    Tiny correction: Unless I’m mistaken, I believe it was blogger Peter Watts http://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=886,
    not Voltaire, who said “Science is so powerful it drives us kicking and screaming toward the truth…..”

    Keep it up!

    Tom

    Posted by Tom Smerling | 21/09/2011, 3:44 am
    • Cheers for the links Tom!
      All of those listed above are linked – something I’m also a big fan of for validity.

      Thanks for the kind words and I’m glad you like what you have seen here!

      Posted by Moth | 21/09/2011, 9:52 am

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